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Interview: Connect 2012 - long form v1.0
Interviewer: Ben Roberts
Interviewee: Bodie McCoy
Location: California United States

Question Answer
1 Q1(a): As you reflect on a time when people came together in a powerful way for positive change, choose one that stands out for you. Tell me your story about that time and any part you, your family and/or friends might have played in it [if relevant].

"In 1989, Bodie took a trip to Mexico with his wife. Went to 7 Mayan sites where Mayan rituals were forbidden and performed the ceremonies. Culminated at Chichen Itza where they formed two complete circles around the pyramid, dancing and chanting during the equinox. 100 people, surrounded by 60,000 tourists, who were invited in. Intense challenge came from the authorities toward the end. Heard breaking glass and things fell apart at that point.

Sense of coming together to do something good and right despite being forbidden. Changed something in the world--although he's not sure what-- and his life changed dramatically after that. His eight child was conceived that day. Moved from CA to CO right afterwards.

"It anchored in us an awareness of how power structures have been created to alienate us from rituals and activities that empower us through unification. A realization that I am the group as much as I am my individual self. I.e. when I make a choice to do something that is right for others as well as me, something in Nature recognizes my needs and gifts and supports my offering them for the greater good. A feeling of being effective, which is my main desire in life. Comes from stepping beyond my own personal boundaries and the things that hold me separate."

In this story, he was far from home, engaged in civil disobedience ("Occupy Chichen Itza!")


2 Q1(b): Why this is an important story? How has it influenced you? What lessons does it offer going forward?

If you are pure in your intention--that you will do your best--you will be "protected." Not that you won't necessarily get hurt, but that it will be worth it even if you do. You will be EFFECTIVE and that's the most important thing.


3 Q2: At this time in history, what challenges do you see in the way we choose to organize ourselves politically, economically and socially? What opportunities do you see in the ways that things might be shifting, awakening and/or emerging in response to these challenges?

"Unity through diversity." Meaning we must be in touch with our own personal reasons for showing up. Then you are in the right place, and a true participant. do things because they are the right thing to do. I don't hear this being emphasized enough. A lot of our dysfunction comes from a desire for mutual back-scratching, i.e. dependence. If things don't work out, our focus is on blaming "them" and we are split.

Gifts reveal "the magic of life," where we are all interconnected. We sense that this is there and want to taste/live that. Hard when so much of the world is focused on this ""pragmatic economy."""


4 Q3 Context: Imagine we’re a few years down the line and people like you have been hugely successful in moving us towards lasting and far-reaching changes that benefit all people and the planet as a whole. Wherever you look, there are dramatic improvements in how leaders behave and how communities interact. As you walk through your city, town or village and talk with others across your country and around the world, you see evidence of positive change spreading everywhere.

Q3(a): Describe the differences you, hear, feel, and experience in your everyday life.

I see these changes taking place already. People of all walks of life, cultures, races, etc., are relating as human beings. Lifestyle choices are no longer measuring sticks or tests. We recognize that we are all basically the same, and the same things are important to us all. Your joy is my joy, your suffering is my suffering. We see that we're all interconnected.


5 Q3(b): Describe the differences you see, hear, feel and experience in the way we choose to organize ourselves politically, economically and socially.

We are competitive beings, but our competition is not with one another, but with the challenge of creating the best world for all that we can. "Hey--wouldn't it be cool if we all had more time to spend with one another? How can we do that and help one another get off of our treadmills, so we spend out time the way we really want to?" No more "ends justify the means" deception. Recognizing that "all we've got is right now."


6 Q3(c): What did people do early on that helped to generate such positive outcomes?

They got real. They got past their petty smallness and onto the real stuff. They started responding to their fears in different ways.


7 Q3(d): What role did you play in making this happen?

I shared a game that helped them to experience what makes us all fundamentally the same (The Four Healing Words).


8 Q4(a): What skills, talents and/or resources might you have to offer in service to collaborative work that emerges via the connect 2012 initiative?

--Four Healing Words Game --Training in counseling and public speaking --Good at problem solving and helping people to focus on what's important


9 Q4(b) What is the nature of this potential offer (as a paid service, barter, gift, a combination, etc.)?

Mix of gifts and paid services


10 Are you interested in developing the infrastructure of Occupy Cafe in support of this initiative or in other respects?

Yes--wants to find a way to do the game with the Cafe.


11 Are you interested in collaborating on the production of a short video or a blog post based on your stories and vision?

yes